The Debate on logos and diastēma in Porphyry’s Commentary on Ptolemy’s Harmonics*
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Introducing his commentary on Ptol. Harm. I.5, Porphyry discusses at length the vocabulary of musical intervals and in particular the question whether the words λόγος and διάστηµα should or not be used as synonyms. This paper aims, on the one hand, at analysing the way in which he chooses and arranges his sources; on the other hand, at restoring them to the original debate to which they belong—a debate in which a seminal role seems to have been played by Plato’s Timaeus and the contributions of its early commentators (Eratosthenes, Aelianus, Panaetius) in the framework of post-Aristoxenian harmonics.
Nell’introdurre il suo commento a Ptol. Harm. I.5, Porfirio tratta a lungo del lessico degli intervalli musicali e in particolare della questione se le parole λόγος e διάστηµα si possano o meno utilizzare come sinonimi. Lo studio si propone da una parte di analizzare il modo in cui Porfirio sceglie e dispone le sue fonti, e dall’altra parte di collocare tali fonti nel loro contesto originale, che sembra essere un dibattito in cui un ruolo fondamentale dovette esser giocato dal Timeo di Platone e dai suoi primi commentatori (Eratostene, Eliano, Panezio) nel quadro della teoria armonica post-aristossenica.
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The Debate on logos and diastēma in Porphyry’s Commentary on Ptolemy’s Harmonics*
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Introducing his commentary on Ptol. Harm. I.5, Porphyry discusses at length the vocabulary of musical intervals and in particular the question whether the words λόγος and διάστηµα should or not be used as synonyms. This paper aims, on the one hand, at analysing the way in which he chooses and arranges his sources; on the other hand, at restoring them to the original debate to which they belong—a debate in which a seminal role seems to have been played by Plato’s Timaeus and the contributions of its early commentators (Eratosthenes, Aelianus, Panaetius) in the framework of post-Aristoxenian harmonics.
| All Time | Past Year | Past 30 Days | |
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| PDF Views & Downloads | 48 | 9 | 0 |